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Discussion on Trapcode Fire V2.3

Discussion on Trapcode Fire V2.3

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Hi, I just purchased this but found out upon migration to the new Trapcode not all the settings have transferred across. I see you’ve said you are working on updating it but that was 10 months ago. Are you planning on doing so, or have I wasted my money?

Thanks,

In the Maxon installer App you can switch back and forth between version including the legacy version of Trapcode Particular. Just uninstall and reinstall but choose legacy versions, it’s at the bottom of the list. You can just click update if you want to go back to V6 it should only take 10mins.

Just purchased this, but found out that Particular still needs migration. Not all the settings were transferred across with this message: “The old parameter “Position XY” used an expression. The new 3D parameter “Position” will use the default.”

Will there be an update made to the latest Trapcode Suite 18, or even a slightly older version so there is no need to migrate? This could be causing issues with optimisation as well.

Yes, since Maxon recently discontinued Trapcode Particular V4.1.5 which was required. Starting with Trapcode Elements for the end of this month and then Trapcode Fire V2.3. They will all be updated to the latest version as soon as possibe, I know it’s inconvient and really do appreciate everyones patience while I work on getting it all fixed.

hello. I’ve recently tried using this preset but when I open the file it says, “migration required” and for some reason I’m not able to see the full effect. How do i fix this?

I’m also going to add a compatibility patch in V3 within the next couple of months so this is just a tempoary solution.

Ok. I was able to troubleshoot it. Las thing, once i keyed my greescreen footage, added the generated fill to white, I copied the layer into the export comp, and for some reason i’m still only seeing the white fill, and I don’t see the final source. Did i miss a step?

There should be a roto comp where you add a white fill layer with the alpha channel of your keyed actor, then in the Export comp you add the keyed actor with the normal colors and the flame effect will be applied ontop of the actor, like in this tutorial: https://youtu.be/XJPawV1g-xM?t=5224

Is it suppose to work with Particular 5 ?

Trapcode Fire was created with Trapcode Particular V4 and is not yet compatible with Trapcode Particular V5.

Hi, Want to purchase this. I don’t have Particular 4 or 5. Does it work with Trapcode Particular 3.1.2? Thanks!

Trapcode Fire requires Trapcode Particular V4.1 to be installed, even though it doesn’t use the fluids in V4 some of the projects might not function correctly.

Trapcode Particular V3 where do i get this

To run Trapcode Fire you need to have Trapcode Particular V4.1 installed, you can download a free trial from Red Gaint or at this link: https://www.redgiant.com/products/trapcode-particular/free-trial-download/

Hey there. I was thinking of purchasing this for use in the latest version of After Effects (2020) and Particular (5). In one of the previous comments you said it was only tested as high as After Effects 2018. Will I have any issues if I purchase this for use in the latest version of AE and Particular? Also do you plan on updating it anytime soon? Thanks in advance. Love your Youtube content by the way.

Thanks, I have not tested this product with V5 and so cannot guarantee that it will be compatible after migrating the project to Trapcode Particular V5. But if you experience any issues you can simple revert your installation of Trapcode Particular back to V4.1.5 and the projects will work fine: https://www.redgiant.com/support/installers/updates/trapcode-particular/

Hi… I thought I would buy a real plug-in, I end up with already done projects where we have to replace the media… I am extremely disappointed :/ and I don’t speak when the comp of the clips are not of the same size as the project… (sorry for my bad English)

Hi sorry to hear that you didn’t get the experience you were looking for, is there anything I can do to help? You can always email me for technical support at zack.cgvisuals@gmail.com

Thanks for your answer, I would already like to know how we do if we shot in 4K? Because your human torch comp is in 1920p, I tried to change the comp the same size as my clip but it works very badly…

I just replied to your email and sent you a more in-depth solution to this, thanks.

Is this still working in after effects 2020 ive just tried using the human torch effect and im following the tutorial but it just doesn’t seem to be working? instead of keying my character ive roto’d them using the roto brush is this an issue?

Hi, it’s tested to work fine in version as recent as 2018, the emission layer requires a white solid as in uses the luminosity to generate the particles. So you could pre-render the character roto as the roto brush can be slow to render by itself. Import that render into the roto comp and just apply a white fill effect to it. In the tutorial the footage was on a greenscreen, so it was a case of keylight and then fill with white.

Hello, How do I slow the effect down?

Hi, thanks for asking, in the export comp you could go to composition settings and increase the frame rate from 25 to 50. Then your rendered output would have twice the frames allowing you to slow down the clip with a time stretch.

Hi, thanks for asking, in the Export Comp you could go to composition settings and increase the frame rate from 25 to 50. Then your rendered output would have twice the frames allowing you to slow down the effect with a time warp.

Why its there a big X on my project files?

You don’t need to buy the whole Red Giant suite, just their plugin Trapcode Particular. But I’m pretty sure you can download a free trail for a month without the X which would allow you to export what you need for now, until your able to a licence for Trapcode Particular.

Let me know how you get on and by all means reach out to me if there is anything I can assist with, thanks :)

Hello Mr.zack

Today I bought this effect. I love this!

I have question. Could you tell me How to make loop moving?

I want know especial about a Project File 2 > Camp_Fire

Thank you.

Thank you for your supporting. I see It’s good idea.

I made a rough test movie. https://youtu.be/e-oGmIQiuf0

I really love this effects so much. Thanks!

That looks great, quick tip though since you’ve pre-rendered it and 3D tracked it into your scene and want to rotate around it. You can right click on the 3d layer, select transform – auto orient… and in the pop up box select (orient towards camera) so it will always face the camera, good job.

Many thanks i appreciate you so much

I used this project on one of my video for instagram but now want to another but change the color of the fire to pink. Is that possible and if so where would I go to change that? Excellent product by the way.

I actually figured it out. Had to expand and adjust the 32 bit color

Thanks for purchasing, good to hear, let me know if you have any other questions.

Hi, I want to buy this product but I’m not sure if I can make the effect of a man on fire singing, for a music video, is it possible?

You will need your actor to be on a green screen, there is a tutorial showing you how to do this in the product you can watch it here, the part your interested in is at 1:27:08: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJPawV1g-xM&t=930s If you actor is in a close up shot I would recommend reducing the emission rate but also increasing the particle size and increase the negative gravity to have the flames rise faster. It will take a bit of tweaking so some working knowledge of After Effects and Trapcode Particular will be an advantage.

This looks more like a tool than a one-off effect. Having to buy this each time I make a youtube video can get REALLY expensive each time. The entire budget would have to go to buying this alone.

Just purchase it once and that will be fine, if your a studio distributing it to multiple artists for use on multiple commercial projects then an extended licence is more suitable, but for YouTube you don’t need to worry about that.

Hi, excellent product. How might I tweak the template comps to work with 4K footage? As it stands, they are 1080 by default. Thank you!

Hi, Thanks for purchasing. The projects / simulations were created at 1080p in an effort to improve render times and keep the interactivity. You can’t actually change the output resolution of the (Particles Comp). But you could change the resolution of the (Export Comp) to 4K, click the (Toggle Shy button) to un-hide all the layers and scale them up by 200. Just so you don’t have to down scale your 4K footage. The fire should look fine, the sprites are very detailed so you can get the 3D camera really close to the fire. And because there’s almost no visible grain you can increase the sharpness allot more than usual before you start noticing artifacts.

Fantastic, thanks

I tried opening the projects using the version of AE (2018) with Trapcode Particular 4 and there are issues on my end. I got the message informing me that the project would be automatically (converted) to the current version, clicked OK and still experiencing problems. Spending too much time troubleshooting. How do I get a refund??

Sorry to hear your having issues. Each of the projects has a CC 2018 version and CS6 to cover different versions. Particular 3 and 4, after you click OK to the automatic conversion you can save the project and you shouldn’t see that message again. However it sounds like your having other issues, are the projects opening OK for you? Here is my email if you would like to discuss the matter in more detail: zack.cgvisuals@gmail.com. In any case you should easily be able to request a refund by contacting Envato customer service, if we are not able to solve the issue. Thanks for reaching out, Zack.

How can I use this effect for making someones head go on fire?

Currently it does not have a skull fire preset, the closest thing is the human torch like project. You could experiment with using obj as emitter if you have a model of a skull but it would require some trial and error.

Very nice work!

Thanks, that update improves the Fireball project file by the way, doing a tutorial on it soon, you can find us on Youtube: CG Visuals # VFX

I am glad to receiving updates. thank you !

You’re very welcome, thanks for downloading

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